Dear Friends,

Lets have a through discussion on NABET's EIA accreditation scheme. I donot think the objective of such a scheme is fulfilled.  It has many more flaws and the question is that what steps it has taken on its own to rectify in the first place?

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  • That is so true Rakesh Sir! Somewhere down the lane the emphasis on the procedure has become so much more important than the actual implementation. Moreover more time is lost on perfecting the Consultants for accreditation, the scheme and its formats and SOP's which leaves almost no quality time for the actual execution for important aspects like impact mitigation and working towards it. 

    Rakesh Shah said:

    The important thing is to have proper mitigation measures and therefore all environmental intelligence requires to be focused on the same i.e setting-up of pollution control systems, operating them to the best, understanding improvements required followed by doing the needful.

    The NABET scheme is forcing environmental engineers/scientists to prepare so called PERFECT EIAs with very few engineers/scientists desiring to stress on the the mitigation requirement. The idea being to become a EIA consultant or a FAE or a EC since it pays much more than working in the field.

    We will PROBABLY have A+ quality EIA reports but the Ganges will keep on deteriorating since no engineer/scientist would be available for or  remain interested in tackling the same. 

    Ache din kahan se ayenge. 

    Whether the objective of NABET's EIA accreditation Scheme is fulfilled?
    Dear Friends, Lets have a through discussion on NABET's EIA accreditation scheme. I donot think the objective of such a scheme is fulfilled.  It has…
  • Not only noise noise monitoring, everything.. some times per letter head Rs 200-300 any parameters with particular font and with particular font size.. if this is actual fact is it going to achieve final goal??? is it going to sustainable development??? is it going to improve our environmental conditions??? just a paperwork ... 

  • The accreditation move a positive step to come out of the confusion created by unscrupulous "consultants". As usual the stakeholders among consultants try to make the process ineffective, and this could not be countered by the present scientific and legal frame works. Unethical practices must be treated as environmental crimes and treated accordingly.

    Similar is the situation with accredited laboratories also. There are laboratories carrying out 24-hour noise monitoring for just Rs 900/- (nine hundred only)! 

    There must be a vigilance department under a specially created vigilance department.

  • Dear, Friends,

    Greetings from Upadhyay!

    I can say whether the objective of NABET is fulfilled but I can share my views as I had started my carrier in 2009 (when the QCI accreditation became mandatory) I can give the summary of the development more particularly in my knowledge and experience.

    I got a clear cut vision of my role and responsibilities with respect to EIA.

    I got up gradation of knowledge through the activities i.e. site visit, planning, meeting the deadline, categories of project and type in information required for appraisal etc.

    It opened up the new avenues for young masses desirable to make a carrier in field of EIA and a number of my juniors are making their carrier in last 5 years.

    The days of one man show came to an end.

    Though nobody is perfect so this scheme has seen several modifications making it more and more accurate and relevant for the excellence in the field for environment impact assessment. NABET is moving in right direction and numerous young masses are looking on it for their future. (Ache Din Ane Wale Hain).

    Dr Shekhar Upadhyay

    FAE (Socio-Economy & Landuse)

  • Few thing i wish to convey regarding QCI. 

    QCI is registered as a non-profit society with its own Memorandum of Association.

    QCI - accreditation fee ( now it is not mentioned in their application form earlier it was there) but Type is there which is like 

     Initial Assessment

    1. Application fee
    2. Documentation Review Fee
    3. Office Assessment Fee
    4. Analysis of Office Assessment and preparation of final report fee
    5. Travel, boarding and lodging  (at actual)--- But they charge more than 3 star facilities.
    6. Annual fee

     Surveillance Assessment (at the end of the 1st year after the accreditation)

    1. Document review fee
    2. Office assessment fee
    3. Analysis of office assessment and preparation of final report fee
    4. Travel, boarding and lodging (at actual)
    5. Annual fee.

    The total fee for a company must be in 6 digit per year.

    Below is peace of details of their RTI reply how much delay they do ..it shows its QUALITY , a organization suppose to accredited the other organization. These detail has been taken from their website http://www.qcin.org/rti/rti_status.php........ However it might not be update. But if it is not updated it also show their own maintenance of QUALITY. 

    SL

    Ref. No

    Name of applicant

    Date of application

    Date of application received by QCI

    Final Reply sent on

    72

    2012-13/QCI/71

    Babulal

    31-01-2013

    11-02-2012

    11-03-2013

    IV

    QCI

    Completed

    73

    2012-13/NABH/72

    Arun Kumar Singh

    14-02-2013

    20-02-2012

     

    IV

    QCI

    In-process

    74

    2012-13/NABH/73

    Arun Kumar Singh

    13-02-2013

    20-02-2012

     

    IV

    QCI

    In-process

    75

    2012-13/NABH/74

    Arun Kumar Singh

    19-02-2013

    21-02-2013

     

    IV

    QCI

    In-process

    76

    2012-13/NABET/75

    Parul Gupta

    25-02-2013

    21-02-2013

     

    IV

    QCI

    In-process

    77

    2012-13/QCI/76

    Babu Lal

    05-05-2013

    12-03-2013

     

    IV

    QCI

    In-process

    78

    2012-13/NABH/77

    Arun Kumar Singh

    06-03-2013

    11-03-2013

     

    IV

    QCI

    In-process

  • I agree with the opinion of Mr manoj Kumar. There should be some online examination for accreditation of Individuals and MoEF should allow some other organizations for this purpose.

  • Dear Ms Preeti Pawaria 

    You have thrown a very intense light on QCI-NABT accreditation Scheme but in my opinion the scheme is just like other BUSINESS module nothing else. My question is "why Qci charge huge amount for accreditation" The per mandays charge is more than 20000/. Do you know what is professional fee of a middle and senior Environmental expert in India ..It is in range of 4000- 8000. (except ADB and World Bank project). QCI people has fixed their fee and every year they increase but they do not revel the basis of increment. 

    Now QCI has launched NEW Scheme 

    Accreditation of Institutes/ Organizations for Training on EIA

    Please See the FEE of it and then you will realized. ---- Its Simply A UNCONTROLLED BUSINESS.

    Again my suggestion is Accreditation should be given to individual Consultant  and there should not be MONOPOLY of QCI only. Government should allow some other organization for this purpose.

  • Dear Ms. Pawaria, Many thanks for bringing out QCI-NABET's perspective and also for information on training modules. Would certainly like to attend these.

  • Dear All,

    This is not to defend what all you have said, but to show the other side of coin

     

    NABET has been always open to any such constructive feedback on Scheme as it will help it improve. Criticizing an activity without specific reasons and logic is the easiest thing to do. The EIA Scheme is an attempt to bring the system oriented approach for EIA preparation which will ultimately benefit the consultant organizations themselves. The consultants honest to themselves & their profession can introspect and find out as to how a 20 lakhs job is done in 2 lakhs, why copy paste of data and EIAs are still practiced and who is going to suffer in future. Environmental consulting was ought to be a business for environment professionals for protecting environment. However, to the contrary it just appears to be a business. 

     QCI/NABET and its role:

    1. It is unknown or is ignored, that QCI/NABET is not for profit organization and fees charged is to run & sustain the process. The objective is, therefore, to improve Quality. 
    2. QCI/NABET through this Scheme has identified the crucial areas which should be strengthened in a consultant organization to bring out good quality EIAs. 
    3. Assessors are professionals in the environment field with vast experience including in EIA.  They come from various backgrounds like consultants, regulators, industry, academics and have exposures to different sectors of industry. They are also extensively trained by NABET from time to time both in the subject matter as well as assessment techniques. 
    4. Sometimes there are variations in the category of a consultant or an expert in subsequent assessments. The reason for this is that the assessment stresses specific aspects e.g. potential capability in Initial Accreditation, Performance in Surveillance Assessment and Improvement and updation in knowledge in Re-Accreditation. This is the logical approach for most of the accreditation process to achieve ‘continual improvement’.
    5. To support the above, NABET has already launched the training modules for EIA Coordinators, Functional Areas and a Scheme for Accreditation Training Providers.
    6. With the objective of optimizing the man power requirements of consultants for their chosen sectors, QCI/NABET is proposing rationalization of functional areas as per sectors applied. This will be there in public domain for comments from stakeholders.

    To conclude, as already informed to all Accredited Consultant Organizations during the One Day Workshops in June, a constructive feedback which can be uniformly implemented across the country has been requested.   As mentioned above, QCI/NABET is open to such feedback and concerned people may also visit NABET’s office for any further clarification on above.

     

    Preeti Pawaria

    Executive Officer 

    QCI-NABET

  • EIA Notification itself is having everything, if Notification is Not sufficient to control regulations there must be Amendment to include NABET to control all activities of granting EC.

    There is no Co-ordination between NABET, SEAC/EAC, consultant organisations and Proponent. 

    There is no need of any NABET ... if we control population. Does any Assessing body highlighted on population control? 

    Each individual/ Human being come to this world with some dreams, How can we stop this? 

    If you go to http://www.iucnredlist.org/search

    Homo sapiens (Human)

    Status: Least Concern ver 3.1 

    Pop. trend: increasing

    Even though we are "Least Concern" we are very much concern about our survival ...

    ......Be the Change You Wish to See in This World....

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